FounderMethod interviewed by Focus Malaysia

I was recently interviewed by Focus Malaysia (Issue 069 ,,, 29/3 – 4/4 2014), you can grab a copy from any news stand before 4 April 2014 for reading pleasure … hehe …

Evanna in Focus Malaysia issue 069

It was another good work done by my Inti Mass Communication Student Group 11.

Group 11 of Inti Mass Communication Students that helped Evanna get her interview session with Focus Malaysia


I would like to specially thank them. They did 100% of the preparation and contacting work, I just appear in the phone interview.

  • Laura Lai
  • Deric Toh
  • Jenmin Cho
  • Hanzel Yuuji Lee
  • Elecher Lee
  • Hui Qiqi

So far, I have lead over hundreds of students to value add my business while I value add them to increase real life industrial experience … I am good at designing automation system that have virtual staffs deliver results to me (without me spending a lot of time with them)

Summary of all the projects done by Inti Students. 

I am reading Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu and I would like to share a chapter of his book that I find quite related for your reading pleasure and at the same time learn from it … I do not do consultation, I have  retired from physical training and speaking engagements, so, I am trying my best to share with you in my blogpost how you can also improve productivity and efficiency in your business and work … 😀

Chapter 11

道德经 11章 三十辐共一毂






Tao Te Ching – Lao Tzu – chapter 11

Thirty spokes share the wheel’s hub;
It is the centre hole that makes it useful.

Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.

Cut doors and windows for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.

Therefore profit comes from what is there;
Usefulness from what is not there.


Evanna is fascinated by reading Lao Tzu’s book – Tao Te Ching and she applies his wisdom into her work

Interpretation based on Evanna’s understanding:

Normal people will notice things with physical forms (what is there) and neglect space (what is not there)

Physical form and space form are dynamically helping each other to create value and serving a specific purpose …

There are 3 examples Lao Tzu gave here in chapter 11

#1. olden days cart wheel: you have 30 spokes (forms) but the hub is empty (space). thus, making it a wheel serving it’s purpose to move horse carts

#2. the outer layer of vessel is clay but middle of a vessel must be hollow or empty (space) so that it can filled items, serving it’s purpose of filling water, soup and food.

#3. a house must have walls and also space or windows to serve the purpose of accommodation for people to live in and furniture to be stored



When I design the project, I will gather intense focus to imagine that

  • my students are there (to execute and deliver the result) – physical form
  • I am not there (I designed workflow automation systems) – empty and can not be seen

And with both elements (physical form and space) are complementing each other, only then we are able to create value …

For those who wish to learn how to design an automation workflow for your staffs or drive a project with hundreds of virtual staffs like mine. Chapter 11 of Lao Tzu is a must read … if you can understand his concept in chapter 11 , it’ll be easier for you to achieve the skill similar to mine …

Happy Reading !!!

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